Wednesday, June 13, 2007

More on the Immigration Debate


The nice thing about going out on a limb on an issue is you find more people think like you than you realize. I found this to be true when I wrote my post, The Bloody Immigration Debate. I braced myself for a lot of vitriol from my own side but instead I found a lot of people who felt the same way.

Sister Toldjah wrote a wonderful post entitled, The immigration debate: The good, the bad, and the ugly - and suggestions. Here are two excerpts:
"I don’t question the president’s good intentions on wanting to pass ‘comprehensive immigration reform.’ He came into the WH after being a two-term governor of the border state of Texas, and it wasn’t exactly a secret that he was in favor of naturalization then, so the positions he’s taken on the issue of illegal immigration have not been a shock to me, nor should they have been to anyone else. To accuse the President of ‘betrayal’ on this issue when his position should have been well-known from the getgo is baffling to me.

What I despised, deplored, and was disgusted by throughout all this was the way conservatives treated each other as it related to disagreements over this issue. There were strong arguments for and against this bill, but lost in all that was the need to “one up” the opposition, whether it was Senator Graham foolishly accusing the bill’s opponents of being “bigots”, the President wrongly questioning the patriotism of conservative critics or people like Tom Tancredo and others like him claiming that anyone who didn’t oppose every aspect of this bill “had to be” a proponent of “open borders” and “shamnesty” and were, essentially, “traitors” to their country for “not wanting to secure its borders.” Incidentally, Tom Tancredo is a guy I do not respect, considering he’s not just against illegal immigration, but he’s against legal immigration as well.1 Tancredo is popular with many on the anti-immigration bill side, and I hope to see more denounciations of his suggestion in the immediate future. Of course, I have to wonder how many Tancredo supporters agree with that sentiment, especially since he’s been expressing it for a few years now and has maintained his popularity amongst staunch immigration bill opponents. Oh, and let’s not forget the calls for impeachment from Michael Savage and Pat Buchanan, either. Along with that, there’s at least one full thread devoted to Bush’s impeachment not at the Daily Kos or the usual Nutroot hangouts … but the Free Republic. This is insanity."

"If there’s anything I’ve learned over the years about the issues that are the most important to me, it’s to learn to be happy with the little victories because the big victories are hard to come by. Take, for example, abortion. It’s no secret that I oppose abortion, but I’m also a realist and realize that abortion can’t be outlawed tomorrow. It’s just not going to happen. So I take comfort in the little victories - like the ban on PBA, and the restrictions on funding for embryonic stem cell research and US funding for international abortions (both advocated by this President, BTW). Those are baby steps (no pun intended) towards a - hopefully - change in attitude on right to life issues. I believe that step by step with each small victory, one day, we just may get to a point in this country where babies aren’t looked at as a “choice” but instead a “child” by an overwhelming majority of the American people. That will be the “big victory” for me. Abortion, as I’ve said before, is my “no compromise” issue, so if the party ever did turn it’s back on its pro-life platform, I’d be saying goodbye."

Robin wrote an excellent post yesterday entitled, About BDS, BBS (Bush Betrayal Syndrome) and IDS (Immigration Derangement Syndrome). Here is her conclusion:
"Then step back and take a deep breath. Think about all the times we've mocked the Left for their outrageous comments. Think about all the times we've almost blown a gasket when Conyers, Sheehan, etc ridiculed and denigrated our President. The IDS/BBS crowd has bellied up to the "Eat Your Own Buffet" with KOS and the DUmpers as honored guests. This is one dinner party that I will NOT be a part of."

Robin and Sister Toldjah both highlighted The Anchoress's post and I have to say its definitely worth reading. She takes the time to post the following list on all the awesome things that Bush has done that so many conservatives have just thrown by the wayside:
Did he protect us from the reach & province of the International Criminal Court? Yes.
Did he keep us from the Kyoto mess that is currently tying up Europe? Yes.
Did he create a workable alternative to Kyoto that other countries have embraced? Yes. Bet you didn’t know that!
Have US Carbon Emissions decreased on his watch, without Kyoto? Yes.
Did he submit a comprehensive energy plan that got killed by a weak congress? Yes.
Has he lowered the deficit ahead of schedule in time of war? Yes. Even the NYTimes admits it!
Did he cut taxes? Twice? Yes. And yes.
Did he try to get the cuts made permanent? Yes. Congress dropped that ball.
Did he stop government funding of EMBRYONIC stem cell research? Yes.
Has he kept the promises he made as he held a dead cop’s shield before the Joint Houses? Yes.
Did he go after the Taliban and AlQaeda in Afghanistan barely a month after 9/11? Yes.
Has he been unflagging in his efforts to subdue terrorism, worldwide? Yes.
Has be been the consistent voice for human liberty around the globe? Yes.

After some serious missteps, is the surge working? Yes.
Has he been a staunch friend to Israel, the only stable democracy in a frantic region? Yes.
Did he end the farce of world-wide Arafat admiration? Yes
Did he remove Saddam Hussein, whose state supported terrorists, from power? Yes.
Did he invade Iraq at a time when the whole world believed Saddam had and “would use” WMD? Yes.
Did he bring a much-maligned coalition with him? Yes. Some are still there.
Did he liberate 50,000 people in keeping with the ideals of the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act? Yes.
Has he inspired the Iraqi people to finally believe enough in freedom to fight AlQaeda with us? YES!
Has he figured out that a free and engaged Middle East makes America safer? Yes.
Has he kept you safe since 9/11? So safe that you’ve almost forgotten to fear? Yes.
Did he remove “the wall” between the CIA and the FBI? Yes.
Did he go to the UN before invading Iraq? Yes.
Did he tell the UN that the US would never ask permission to defend herself? Yes.
Did he inspire Libya to surrender it’s WMD without firing a shot? Yes.
Did he appoint excellent SCOTUS and Federal Judges to the bench? Yes.

Did he implement the NSA terrorist eavesdropping program? Yes.
Did he immediately move to freeze assets and make terror funding more difficult? Yes.
Did he reform Medicare? Yes.
Did he reform Social Security to give you more power over your money? He tried. See Congress.
Did he manage an economy thru recession, terror attack & war w/ consistent gains for over ten quarters? Yes.
Has he kept unemployment between 5.5% and 4.4% for an impressive period? Yes.
Does he say what he means and mean what he says? Yes.

Did he try to address immigration last year, when the houses in his party? Yes.
Does he support the second amendment? Yes.
Does he support school vouchers and school choice? Yes.
Did he sign the ban on Partial Birth Abortion? Yes. It went to court, but he signed it.
Did he reverse Clinton’s intent to kill Reagan’s pro-life Mexico policy? Yes.
Did he support the Defense of Marriage Act? Yes. That used to be vitally important to you.

Did he expand the roles of faith-based organizations in social programs? Yes.
Did he prosecute the white-collar criminals like Ken Lay who ran riot through the ‘90’s? Yes.
Has he handled himself with enormous courage, dignity and grace in the face of world/media/hate?
Is he a man with a creed before he’s anything else? Yes.

Did he establish Health Savings accounts? Yes.
Did he have the Border Patrol installing monitoring devices along the borders? Yes.
Has he made mistakes? Yes. Some undeniable beauts.
Has he been an imperfect president? Yes.
Has he spent too much? Probably.
Has he given you most of what you’ve wanted? Actually, looking at the list…yes!
Has he dared to disagree with anyone to keep his principles, even you? Yes.

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